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  • MangyForestCat posted a new activity comment 1 year, 8 months ago

    I’ve already mentioned this but think of the ridiculousness of not allowing limited edition mail-order Gundam kits.

    Like say from the website Gentei Kits.

    http://genteikits.com/kits/

    These are exclusive Bandai Gundam models that are available only if you order them by mail and available only in Japan on a one by one ordering basis.

    HLJ does n…[Read more]

    • The base kit needs to be available on HLJ for purchase.
      Since the listed kits are originally a “P-Bandai” they will be considered illegal because they are not available at HLJ. However, it is not against the rules to alter another kit to resemble a P-Bandai. For example, HG IBO Iok’s Reginlaze is just a recolor of HG IBO Julieta’s Reginlaze. You…[Read more]

    • For eligibility, the competition states “The first photo posted should be of the model kit box you intend to build.” This is done so the judges can confirm, what kit you are building and is the available for purchase. This is why they also have at least 4 work in progress photo, as a reference to check if you are not cheating. If anything, the…[Read more]

  • MangyForestCat posted a new activity comment 1 year, 8 months ago

    You are the only one who has hit the nail right on the head. You’re exactly right. You understand my frustration and confusion considering I was already thinking of what I would be modeling and painting. It is absolutely semantics but it’s also about being both contradicting and inconsistent within their own rules.

  • MangyForestCat posted a new activity comment 1 year, 8 months ago

    It sure has. I had several in mind and none of them are available on HLJ. In fact that was my entire strategy. To build and model something no one else has. Something not even similar to what everyone else has.

    I build mecha, and I build planes, and I build tanks, and I have built cars as well. Nobody else here will ever build and post from…[Read more]

  • MangyForestCat posted a new activity comment 1 year, 8 months ago

    The same goes to you kid. In fact, I can pretty much sum up all of my thoughts on you with a simple eat shit and die.

    If you don’t have any problems with the rules then you can easily stay the hell out of the conversation.

    Do you think HLJ and HLtv needs you here to defend them? Do you think that Syd and the crew need you here representing for…[Read more]

  • MangyForestCat posted a new activity comment 1 year, 8 months ago

    I care and I have a problem with these rules. That’s why I made these posts. If you don’t care then feel free not to care to yourself and keep it off my post.

    I have problems with not allowing certain kits. The kits I’ve mentioned are not obscure; they just don’t interest you. In fact I’ll put it to you this way…

    Ultimately, if you have a…[Read more]

  • MangyForestCat posted a new activity comment 1 year, 8 months ago

    I could honestly go at length about the ridiculousness of this rule that it has to be a kit that is sold or was once sold in the past at HLJ.

    Not only does it hurt my personal ability to enter with kits that I find extremely interesting like those from Games Workshop, Reaper miniatures, and Privateer Press. It also stops some RIDICULOUS EXAMPLES…[Read more]

    • “I could honestly go at length about the ridiculousness of this rule that it has to be a kit that is sold or was once sold in the past at HLJ.”

      It’s not ridiculous. It’s a perfectly reasonable rule.

      “They want a completely closed off competition then they have that right.”

      Yes they do. Does HLJ have to explain and list all their reasons for…[Read more]

      • The same goes to you kid. In fact, I can pretty much sum up all of my thoughts on you with a simple eat shit and die.

        If you don’t have any problems with the rules then you can easily stay the hell out of the conversation.

        Do you think HLJ and HLtv needs you here to defend them? Do you think that Syd and the crew need you here representing for…[Read more]

  • MangyForestCat posted a new activity comment 1 year, 8 months ago

    Richigo I have much respect for you and your work. Your submission to the 2013/2014 competition was amazing.

    I did not even submit my entry to the Advanced Category in 2014. I submitted my entry to the Intermediate Category because I saw models like yours and others in the Advanced Category and I did not believe I could hack it at that level.

    I…[Read more]

    • yeah I deleted those comments because they weren’t helpful or productive, apologies for that 🙂
      I entered in intermediate in the last comp and got bumped to advanced just like you 😛

  • MangyForestCat posted a new activity comment 1 year, 8 months ago

    I am not taking HLJ to court. I am just noting the inconsistencies in the language and regulations of the competition.

    I am noting it because as a participant of the previous competition these new rules did not apply. The inconsistencies arise from the fact that they just copied and pasted the same rules as the ones from 2013/2014 and then added…[Read more]

  • MangyForestCat posted a new activity comment 1 year, 8 months ago

    When I said “racial purity test” it’s an analogy to what is generally regarded to be a negative thing. If you can’t understand simple abstract thinking then I really can’t help you, but I know you understand me. I think your comment and one other from another member in the Advanced Category actually understands what I’m talking about.

    Anyway, I…[Read more]

  • MangyForestCat posted a new activity comment 1 year, 8 months ago

    I don’t know why you think I haven’t. Like it has occurred to you but it hasn’t to me. I did that previous to my posting this on the 3 main pages. I decided that it should be public knowledge and show the inconsistencies to all.

  • MangyForestCat posted a new activity comment 1 year, 8 months ago

    I’m sorry I’m having a hard time understanding why you are trying to explain what the name of the competition means. I know what the competition means. I do not know why you’re explaining TO ME what it means.

    I won 4th place runner-up in the 2013-2014 competition for a price of 8,000 yen. So explain to me why you think you know more than me?…[Read more]

    • I have no idea why you’re calling it a “racial” purity test.
      What does race have to do with anything?

    • And just a word to the wise, you’re coming off as holier than thou saying things like “So explain to me why you think you know more than me?”

      • Richigo I have much respect for you and your work. Your submission to the 2013/2014 competition was amazing.

        I did not even submit my entry to the Advanced Category in 2014. I submitted my entry to the Intermediate Category because I saw models like yours and others in the Advanced Category and I did not believe I could hack it at that level.

        I…[Read more]

        • yeah I deleted those comments because they weren’t helpful or productive, apologies for that 🙂
          I entered in intermediate in the last comp and got bumped to advanced just like you 😛

    • “In fact both the scratch-built car before mine AND my own submission itself would both be ineligible from competing this year because of the added rules.”

      Who cares? This is a completely new competition, with a new set of rules. Everyone else seems to be fine with these rules. We are fine with restricting the competition to kits at are widely…[Read more]

      • I care and I have a problem with these rules. That’s why I made these posts. If you don’t care then feel free not to care to yourself and keep it off my post.

        I have problems with not allowing certain kits. The kits I’ve mentioned are not obscure; they just don’t interest you. In fact I’ll put it to you this way…

        Ultimately, if you have a…[Read more]

  • MangyForestCat posted a new activity comment 1 year, 8 months ago

    Again this has nothing to do with my post. You have failed to understand the internal hypocrisy and illogical inconsistencies arising from these new rules added on top of the 2013/2014 rules and category description.

  • MangyForestCat posted a new activity comment 1 year, 8 months ago

    I didn’t say they don’t offer scratch build materials. I know that HLJ offers many things including scratch built materials. That is besides the point. I can go to my local art supply or hobby store, and buy all the materials for scratch building. Someone building a completely scratch built model can use materials from various sources. How does @Sy…[Read more]

    • In the most recent Gunpla TV episode, Syd confirmed that the materials can be purchased anywhere, they only needed to be available on hlj.com.

      • Again this has nothing to do with my post. You have failed to understand the internal hypocrisy and illogical inconsistencies arising from these new rules added on top of the 2013/2014 rules and category description.

  • @syd Why is there a “racial purity test” for this competition?

    I do not understand at all the decision made to have this mixed messaging of what kits we are and are not allowed to use and whether they came from HLJ.com or not.

    If your intention was to create a completely closed ecosystem where no kits, but those bought from HLJ.com, would be e…[Read more]

    • why not just message syd directly instead of posting this in all 3 competition pages?

    • I think most of what you said is correct semantically, but I think you are reading too much into it. They have set up restrictions to ensure that the contest is aimed for their clients and as you said this is ok. They have also realized that these restrictions, are in effect, restrictive for the advanced category so they added a clause to allow…[Read more]

      • When I said “racial purity test” it’s an analogy to what is generally regarded to be a negative thing. If you can’t understand simple abstract thinking then I really can’t help you, but I know you understand me. I think your comment and one other from another member in the Advanced Category actually understands what I’m talking about.

        Anyway, I…[Read more]

    • I found the rules very clear. For someone who is versed in rules and laws and have friends in this field, you made quite a few assumptions on HLJs behalf that cannot be used in any court ruling. The categories were clearly meant to classify skill which in itself cannot be logically quantified. Completely scratch building a kit truly could…[Read more]

      • I am not taking HLJ to court. I am just noting the inconsistencies in the language and regulations of the competition.

        I am noting it because as a participant of the previous competition these new rules did not apply. The inconsistencies arise from the fact that they just copied and pasted the same rules as the ones from 2013/2014 and then added…[Read more]

    • I could honestly go at length about the ridiculousness of this rule that it has to be a kit that is sold or was once sold in the past at HLJ.

      Not only does it hurt my personal ability to enter with kits that I find extremely interesting like those from Games Workshop, Reaper miniatures, and Privateer Press. It also stops some RIDICULOUS EXAMPLES…[Read more]

      • “I could honestly go at length about the ridiculousness of this rule that it has to be a kit that is sold or was once sold in the past at HLJ.”

        It’s not ridiculous. It’s a perfectly reasonable rule.

        “They want a completely closed off competition then they have that right.”

        Yes they do. Does HLJ have to explain and list all their reasons for…[Read more]

        • The same goes to you kid. In fact, I can pretty much sum up all of my thoughts on you with a simple eat shit and die.

          If you don’t have any problems with the rules then you can easily stay the hell out of the conversation.

          Do you think HLJ and HLtv needs you here to defend them? Do you think that Syd and the crew need you here representing for…[Read more]

  • @syd Why is there a “racial purity test” for this competition?

    I do not understand at all the decision made to have this mixed messaging of what kits we are and are not allowed to use and whether they came from HLJ.com or not.

    If your intention was to create a completely closed ecosystem where no kits, but those bought from HLJ.com, would be e…[Read more]

    • The contest is called Playing with PLAMO. Even with the statement “a creation all your own that has never been seen before,” it’s CLEAR that there must be a plamo at the core of a submission.

      As for requiring kits to be available at HLJ at any time, it’s a reasonable rule given the proliferation of KOs.

      • I’m sorry I’m having a hard time understanding why you are trying to explain what the name of the competition means. I know what the competition means. I do not know why you’re explaining TO ME what it means.

        I won 4th place runner-up in the 2013-2014 competition for a price of 8,000 yen. So explain to me why you think you know more than me?…[Read more]

        • I have no idea why you’re calling it a “racial” purity test.
          What does race have to do with anything?

        • And just a word to the wise, you’re coming off as holier than thou saying things like “So explain to me why you think you know more than me?”

          • Richigo I have much respect for you and your work. Your submission to the 2013/2014 competition was amazing.

            I did not even submit my entry to the Advanced Category in 2014. I submitted my entry to the Intermediate Category because I saw models like yours and others in the Advanced Category and I did not believe I could hack it at that level.

            I…[Read more]

            • yeah I deleted those comments because they weren’t helpful or productive, apologies for that 🙂
              I entered in intermediate in the last comp and got bumped to advanced just like you 😛

        • “In fact both the scratch-built car before mine AND my own submission itself would both be ineligible from competing this year because of the added rules.”

          Who cares? This is a completely new competition, with a new set of rules. Everyone else seems to be fine with these rules. We are fine with restricting the competition to kits at are widely…[Read more]

          • I care and I have a problem with these rules. That’s why I made these posts. If you don’t care then feel free not to care to yourself and keep it off my post.

            I have problems with not allowing certain kits. The kits I’ve mentioned are not obscure; they just don’t interest you. In fact I’ll put it to you this way…

            Ultimately, if you have a…[Read more]

    • I am curious what kit or kits or scratch building do you have in mind are affected by the rules they set out so much that made you.
      Its clear to me that these rules they set must have affected your choice or choices of builds greatly for you to look into the rules this much.

      • It sure has. I had several in mind and none of them are available on HLJ. In fact that was my entire strategy. To build and model something no one else has. Something not even similar to what everyone else has.

        I build mecha, and I build planes, and I build tanks, and I have built cars as well. Nobody else here will ever build and post from…[Read more]

    • Incredible skill and portfolio aside, I find an issue with impossing restrictions. Restraint and restrictions are part of what makes incredible and inspiring art work. Beethoven composed the ninth symphony, one of the most iconic works of not only music but of art in history. What makes it more amazing? He was virtually tone deaf while composing…[Read more]

  • @syd Why is there a “racial purity test” for this competition?

    I do not understand at all the decision made to have this mixed messaging of what kits we are and are not allowed to use and whether they came from HLJ.com or not.

    If your intention was to create a completely closed ecosystem where no kits, but those bought from HLJ.com, would be e…[Read more]

    • I agree with your reason that they want to promote their company, and it is completely fine. As for the unclear rules, I believe hlj.com does offer scratch build materials.
      http://hlj.com/product/TAM70124/Sup
      So I guess nothing is wrong then.

      • I didn’t say they don’t offer scratch build materials. I know that HLJ offers many things including scratch built materials. That is besides the point. I can go to my local art supply or hobby store, and buy all the materials for scratch building. Someone building a completely scratch built model can use materials from various sources. How does @Sy…[Read more]

        • In the most recent Gunpla TV episode, Syd confirmed that the materials can be purchased anywhere, they only needed to be available on hlj.com.

          • Again this has nothing to do with my post. You have failed to understand the internal hypocrisy and illogical inconsistencies arising from these new rules added on top of the 2013/2014 rules and category description.

    • Racial purity rest?

      It’s their competition. They want you to use their kits / supplies to win their prizes. It’s their promotion. Seems pretty legitimate to me. And I agree with it.

      I’m a side note, please don’t refer to basic modeling promotion rules as racial purity tests. It is offensive and really doesn’t make sense either.

      • If unclear rules is ur issue, contact HLJ staffs/ read FAQs. They have made stuff much more clear in the FAQ page. Stifling creativity? not sure about that. HLJ does sell huge selection of scratch building materials. Besides, read the FAQ page on 2017 page. U are allowed to use kits NOT BOUGHT FROM HLJ but U WILL NEED TO OWN A HLJ ACCOUNT.

        p.s.…[Read more]

        • I think I can grasp a bit of Mangy’s frustration/confusion. The root of this problem is not the scratch building or using an HLJ kit, etc, but the use of poor diction to describe the “mentioned” judging criteria. The term “completely” was probably implied as 100% of the kit is built from non preexisting parts (i.e. literally building it from the…[Read more]

          • You are the only one who has hit the nail right on the head. You’re exactly right. You understand my frustration and confusion considering I was already thinking of what I would be modeling and painting. It is absolutely semantics but it’s also about being both contradicting and inconsistent within their own rules.

          • I’ve already mentioned this but think of the ridiculousness of not allowing limited edition mail-order Gundam kits.

            Like say from the website Gentei Kits.

            http://genteikits.com/kits/

            These are exclusive Bandai Gundam models that are available only if you order them by mail and available only in Japan on a one by one ordering basis.

            HLJ does n…[Read more]

            • The base kit needs to be available on HLJ for purchase.
              Since the listed kits are originally a “P-Bandai” they will be considered illegal because they are not available at HLJ. However, it is not against the rules to alter another kit to resemble a P-Bandai. For example, HG IBO Iok’s Reginlaze is just a recolor of HG IBO Julieta’s Reginlaze. You…[Read more]

            • For eligibility, the competition states “The first photo posted should be of the model kit box you intend to build.” This is done so the judges can confirm, what kit you are building and is the available for purchase. This is why they also have at least 4 work in progress photo, as a reference to check if you are not cheating. If anything, the…[Read more]

  • MangyForestCat posted a new activity comment 1 year, 8 months ago

    You built, painted, and put all the models and diorama together in less than 2 weeks after the competition announcement?

    Yeah I highly doubt it. Then again maybe you’re just that good and dedicated. Good luck

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