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Q/A & Help Group 8 years, 2 months ago ok i decaled my hi nu painted it up gloss coated it and then finally i flat coated it and then all of a sudden it started frosting the entire model the decal on the head is completely gone thank god i only painted up the head piece with it help pls im so mad
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Did you allow the gloss coat to completely cure before putting on the flat coat? What kind of gloss and flat did you use (laquer, acrylic?) Did you spray outside in the cold?
yea i did its tamiya acrylic and i used an airbrush and i sprayed a coat of it
and i did it in the house at night
I had the same problem with my MG Destiny. The flat coat was the worst of the two. It even happened with the gloss acrylic from Tamiya.
I did some searching on the web back then.
For the gloss it’s advised to spray two fogged layers and one final all covering one with a minimum of twelve minutes between coats. But it didn’t work for me. I sprayed the first coat as advised in preparation for decals. The second coat I did it first the way it’s advised, and it fogged up, the second time I sprayed on on covering coat and it still fogged up. This was also a gloss coat, same as the first layer.
I was able to polish it out and used Turtle Wax to get the gloss back.
The peculiar thing is, it didn’t fog up the entire piece…..
Maybe this is also the M.O. for the flat clear, but I had no luck with it either. Turned out really foggy.
In any case, I keep away from the Tamiya clear acrylics all together.
But maybe you can polish the pieces too. And it has nothing to do with moisture in my case, as it was mid summer and we had a dry period over here at the time.
Good luck with it
well what happend was i used the tamiya and it frosted up the entire head i used future for gloss coat and that didnt do any dmg but the tamiya destroyed my kit can i ask what kind of flat coat do u use i was thinking maybe i should use modelmaster but better safe than sorry i suppose
In threw the Tamiya in the trash and ordered Alclad II Klear Kote Matte. Didn’t had any trouble with it so far, but only used it ones on a model plane a few weeks back. But keep in mind, this is an enamel based clear, regardless of what the brand name implies.
There are some people that state that the Tamiya matte (X-21 if I recall correctly) is only for mixing with a gloss color to make it flat. Others say it dilutes and sprays fine without any trouble….
But with all the trouble in the past, I keep away from it as far as I can.
Don’t know if you used the acrylic bottles, or a spray can (but aren’t those all lacquers…?) but it could be a reaction to the Future?
Sorry, but haven’t any experience with the Modelmaster range. But my guess is, that if you use a flat and gloss clear from the same brand and type, there shouldn’t be any reaction between the two.
As you did your spraying indoors, problems due to moisture are out of the equation.
By the way, as I’ve seen on YouTube, isn’t Future dilutable with mineral spirits, making it an enamel based product. I found out recently that enamels can be ruined by alcohol, so I’m leaning towards a reaction between the both….
Hope this gibberish is of some help. Good luck
well from what i read it said on pledge future it is acrylic so dik but about the flat coat is that flat coat the same one u used on ur hi nu also and did u just lightly spray it or how so
mind if I share what I did with my MG Nu Gundam, after painting, I used flat coat first for paint protection. And thats the only thing that I flat coat it. Then panel lining then seal with clear coat (not gloss coat), then decals(water) seal with clear coat then all the way clear coat and it still look flat and I’m satisfied. Also, don’t paint during the night if possible because even in construction (painting a house) we don’t recommend painting even in the afternoon, unless you have like a machine that can regulate temperature like how cars being painted.