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  • Big Rich posted an update in the group Group logo of Q/A & Help GroupQ/A & Help Group 9 years, 7 months ago

    Hi guys. I’m having trouble getting rid of seam lines. I seem to be making a mountain out a molehill. What am I doing wrong?

    • I think your approach looks just fine, you’re just dealing with a kit that has some irregular seams.
      It was kind of a common problem with these mid-to-late 1990s 1:144 kits. Seams would flare out a bit or the surface would be warped slightly from the molding process, resulting in an irregular surface across the seams.
      Actually, alignment on the 1990s kits can be a problem as well – and if your parts don’t align properly, sanding the seam smooth is really just gonna make a mess of it. It’d be like sanding down the curb to level the sidewalk with the street – the two surfaces aren’t on the same plane… So when you’re assembling you should be aware of alignment, and if necessary, cut off the snap-fit pegs and align things manually. I’ve not built any Gundam X kits but on the 1995 MGs, or the 1:144 Wing kits, I think this is essential.
      To deal with these irregularities you can sand it until the surface is level with the sunken bits, or add putty to fill in the recessed areas.
      Now, about your sandpaper – this may be a dumb question, but you mentioned 1200 grit sandpaper – that’s not all you’re using, is it? It’s very fine-grit, good for finishing, but bad for making any significant changes to the model’s surface. I usually start with 220 or 320, which would be very effective for leveling out the surface of the seam, and then progress through increasingly higher grits to smooth out the sanding scratches.
      Of course there’s dangers in trying to level out somehting like this by sanding – you could wind up curving the surface or grinding down its edges – to keep a flat surface flat in this process requires some care. I think maintaining that control is easier when you’re doing coarse work with coarse sandpaper, because you can get the job done quickly, before fatigue sets in and you start getting careless.
      Anyway, nice attention to detail. Good seam work is essential IMO – just a little hint of a leftover seam can totally ruin the effect.

      • Thanks for your help. I really thought it was my fault! I think I’ll renamed the video to a work in progress.
        I was mostly using a sanding stick but I have no idea what grit it was. I just waited 2 weeks for some Tamiya 400 grit sandpaper to come from Korea, but it has a strange green glow and i’m afraid to use it. Just kidding lol. Seriously I used 100 grt sandpaper and it took all night to do those 4 parts you saw in the video.. I’m worried that if I use anything strong i’d do damage to the part, damage that no amount of sanding will fix.

        • Are you sure that was 100 grit? That’s really harsh stuff – though in sanding stick form it could be different I guess… I almost never go stronger than 220…
          320 is a pretty comfortable starting point – strong enough to be effective but not quite as harsh as 220.
          What I use (and recommend) is wet/dry sandpaper from the hardware store. An 8.5″x11″ sheet costs roughly a dollar and then be cut into 12-20 individual pieces. It’s cheap and plentiful so when one piece wears out I can just reach for another. I first started out using hobby-specific sanding sheets made of plastic, but these were expensive and they wore out too quickly. I made the switch when I needed a more economical option for a model-building class I taught at anime cons for a few years – started using the surplus supplies myself and pretty quickly switched over. I don’t use a lot of sanding sticks and stuff either – just straight-up paper is fine for most jobs.

          • Yeah, it says P100 on the back. I’ve had pretty much the same experience. Tamiya sandpaper is great but it’s expensive and it doesn’t last long. I went into Poundland and bought a huge pack of sandpaper, so much I didn’t bother counting it. It’s P60, P150 and P100. I also have P400, P1000 and P1200. I went throught of phase of buying sandpaper when I saw it. Which to be fair is not as bad as my buying spray paint when I see it phase.

            • Well P100 should be coarse enough for just about any job – really, it’s coarser than I would use on a styrene kit… So I’m not sure why it wasn’t more effective. Could be the gap’s deep enough that it just takes a while to sand down the rest of the surface to match (in which case using putty is probably the way to go) or it could be the sandpaper’s gotten clogged up… Not really sure. I’d look into getting something in between P150 and P400 though – might be helpful. (P400 as it turns out, is pretty close to 320 grit in the US (CAMI) standard – so out of what you’ve got I guess that’s the one I’d recommend starting with)

              • I am getting through a lot of sandpaper, but who cares, it was cheap enough. I just nee to get rid of the stubborn bit with my knife and I can get to painting.The Tamiya TS-84 paint i got is amazing!!!