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Macross Kits 8 years, 5 months ago Hi everybody. I want to build my first Macross kit but i cant find much help on the description of the models. Do they come by different grades like gundam kits? Im looking at hasegawa kits instead of bandai since i want to have a dedicated non transformable jet for display. Do they all need paint? Would the nothung II from macross the ride be a good kit to start with?
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Hi Mauricokito, welcome to the group!
well I guess it all depends on what are you looking for and the Valkire that you like, all the hasegawa kits require some level of paint, but painting all the kit will boost the kit alot, mainly because you need to sand where the cement melts the plastic, but I guess you can get away with it if you sand carefully and polish the union after that,, i think the NothungII is a very complicated build, lots of paint and lots of decals, a very simple and great looking kit is the good old YF-19, if youre carefull with the decals you can get away with painting just some details, like the cockpit, the intakes and outtakes, though i really recomend that you also paint at least the fins, its a very simple paint job that looks great…
please share with us your kit!
Thank you so much for this info Angelizer! Yeah, im looking into a messiah. Can you tell me a little bit more about these series? I was also looking into Luca’s messiah, the one with the dish in top. Sad to know these are complex builds. I thought they werent since i saw the plastic is molded in color but i’d be up for the challenge though. Could you also tell me more about this cement you mentioned? Brand and name.
Hi Mauricokito !
Good question on the VF-25
you’ve got 2 schools for this mecha :
– Hasegawa’s new kit :
need painting on every surface, the kit must be glued up so, as Angelizer said, you must sand where the plastics melt so the paint is absolutely needed.
– Bandai’s variable kit :
just need NO GLUE (snap kit) and a few painting work (undercarriage if you display it on the ground), and almost the cockpit, all the other surfaces can be done with “fine tips gundam marker” to enhance the panel lines, as the whole decoration of the aircraft can be done using stickers instead of decals (both are in the box).
The big difference between the two kits : Bandai’s one is variable, so you put it in the shape you want to see it, but hasegawa’s more slick because it’s not transformable
The size and proportions are very very close on the 2 products (I made the comparison for one of my forums), I have assembled the Bandai wich came with the 3 ghosts… and theses 3 ghosts require plenty of decals tobe done, no stickers like the messiah…
Maybe those precisions can make you choose the best messiah for you ^^
If you want to see my messiahs (Bandai, no paint except cockpit and undercarriage on all models) :
http://www.robotechcollections.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=700
the plastic cement is a compund made to fuse two pieces of plastic together, very handy even on snap fit models, o consider cement as on of the basic tools http://gunplahobbies.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/dsc_00341.jpg the thing is because cement malts the plastic a little to make a seamless fuse between the two parts you need to take away the excess, this can be done very easily, with the back of a hoby knife an a 1400grid sandpaper, just take away the excess with the back of any hoby kife untill you have no diference between the height of the pieces, it has to look like this is a single piece, after that use the 1400 grid sandpaper with a drop of water in it untill the scratches are gone, this will leave you an almost perfect surface the little diference between the parts will disapear once you top coat the model, but if you want pwerfection after the 1400 grid sand paper you can polish the piece with a little tooth paste, im not kidding, toothpaste works amazing of youre trying to remove scratches from any plastic piece, even on canopys.
As Ratarse said (listen to him he is an amazing modeler who has given me lots of great advice on how to do things) on hasegawa models the colour separation is slim to non existent, and this apply also on the newest messiah series, hasegawa gives you amazing waterslides to fill every single detail, for example the no step decals that go on the flaps of the wing, that might hear like a silly detail but it looks amazing, it gives you some detail to look everywhere you look at. on the other hand bandai gives you very bad waterslides and stickers, im not kidding here, those waterslides and stickers have big dots on them and the waterslides sometimes fall off without you touching them, on the plus side Luca´s bandai kit include the 3 ghosts, wich I think is great and gives the edge over the hasegawa.]
here you can see my build of the RVF-25
http://evilmodelkits.blogspot.mx/2013/12/rvf-25.html
oh and forgot to mention, I really think you should try a hasegawa model, even if you have to paint it all, pick the one you like the most, once you finished your first, you’ll see how great they look, you’ll learn alot and by the end of the build you will be a better modler. that’s what happened to me (I think) 😛
I think for a good start you better off with a snap fit kit..I’ve been building a lot of gunpla and I’ve a hard time doing the hasegawa kit..it is really not for a beginner as you’re dealing with paint, glue and big waterslide..I’ve build the VF-11B Nothung II and I’ve been enjoying it apart of the cementing parts and the waterslide(prepare Mark Softener and mark Setter)..But hey if you really into it just go for it..check my build here http://www.hobbylink.tv/groups/what-are-you-building/media/38102/
Oh wow! Gotta love this site with all the support I’m getting. Thank you all very much for the replies and awesome jobs on those builds from you guys. I’m definately getting encouraged to go with Hasegawa. I’m not an advance modeler but I’m no beginner either. I built some fighter jets from Revell a long time ago which I glued together and painted so now that i’m back with gunpla, I’m eager to see what I can do on a kit that needs paint and glue since I’ve been doing a little painting on the couple MGs I’ve built so far. I have another post with a picture of the aircraft I was able to keep in good shape during all these year but I’m trying to remember what scale they are.
Could you guys give me some references for the cement/glue and paints needed for these kits?
@scid, that build of the VF-11B Nothung II is looking great. What kind (brand) of paint did you use?
You’re welcome Mauricokito !
If you had made some model kits (well, Revell ain’t so bad, though…), you should do a good job with hasegawa’s model kits.
I have assembled a FW-190D on 1/72 few hours ago, no problem at all.
As with Tamiya’s kits, modeling is pure entertainement !
For the paints, it depends on the stuff you will find in your favorite hobby shop.
I work essentially with enamels on base colors, and make my effects with thinned acrylics, but there are no rules at all.
By the way, I prefer Mr Hobby acrylics than Tamiya’s
But it all depends on the way you make the model kit.
I allways use tamiya’s cemet I have both the normal cement, perfect for samall to medium parts and the extra thin cement , you can use that in case you hace a gap between parts after u used the normal cenet and big parts that need to be glued,, and abut the paints, I usually work with acrilics as a base and enamels for detailing, no specific brand but the one that I prefer the most is vallejo, but those are expensive, so usualy I goi for a mix of tamiya and vallejo acrilics, and enamels, one thing that I would recomend is taht you startr with acrilics only, acrylics are easyly removed with alcochol, that’s why I recomend that you gor the enamels once you get used to paint, but, like ratatarse said, there are no rules, if you wana try enamels and acrylics go for it.
My friend, thanks again for your advice, I really appreciate it. Cant wait to start with kits!
anytime,, please ask if you have any doubts , Im shure someone in the group will have an answer, and please share your kits with us!
yes, despite I don’t come here everyday, you can also pass through my website and ask me somequestions on the “contact” page…
I’m working on an english version of my site, too
What have you bought to begin ?
I got 1/72 RVF-25 Messiah and 1/72 VF-11B Nothung II.
Could you guys tell me what colors to use for these kits?
you’ve got the paint references (in mr hobby acrylics) on the instructions.
if you havn’t any mr hobby in stock or in shops near you, you can find the matching colors on some sites like IPMS STOCKHOLM, juste searching “tamiya colors humbrol gunze” for example