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Q/A & Help Group 6 years, 11 months ago Hello, im new to custom painting, i want to paint Nightingale but i’m wondering how i should start and what i’ll need to do to the paint before spraying it down.
LordTouchMe posted an update in the group 
Q/A & Help Group 6 years, 11 months ago
Hello, im new to custom painting, i want to paint Nightingale but i’m wondering how i should start and what i’ll need to do to the paint before spraying it down.
Most people wash the runners before they start the building process. Personally I don’t. I snip the pieces of the runners, sort them by limbs, sand down the nubs and then do the washing as this gets rid of the dust from the sanding. Them I suggest getting a good plastic primer. You could do without, but for me in the past I noticed that paint would not adhere to the plastic that well, sometimes flaking off…. After priming, there are two options, paint straight after painting, or wait a day, sand the parts if the primer went on too rough and then paint the parts. Sort the parts by limb or colour, whichever you prefer. If you need any more information, please let us know.
Good luck and happy building
Do i need any kind of paint thinner for the paint, I want the model to have a darker color or something similar to a titanium finish. I know for a titanium finish the base color has to be a alclad silver and then a clear red on top.
u really only need thinner if your using an airbrush. with a spray can its just aim and shoot but with since ur using alclad paints im assuming ur using an airbrush so if u are then for alclad paints u do not need thinner since its already prethinned in the bottle. for paints like tamiya clear red and other tamiya bottles u do need thinner to thin the paint down to a milk like consistency then u can spray it
it should also be fine btw usually dark colors over light colors dont have impact usually
Ah so then i’l be doing a titanium-style finish as my first project with matte black accents. Thank you all for the help, i appreciate it very much.
You’re welcome. Ono slight note though. The Alclad silver can react with an acrylic that is alcohol based, like the Tamiya and Mr’Hobby are. Please spray Alclad Klear Kote beforehand and let it cure for at least a day. Good luck, happy building and please show us some pictures of the finished result. Interesting sounding colour scheme!
@teetee580
On that note of clear coats, i spray that coat after the primer and then the silver? And after i finish spraying the colors, do i need a sealer or top coat?
I just don’t want to mess up on the model.
First spray the primer, then optionally a gloss black (due to the high shine, the shine of the silver “deepens”, you could first try the colours on a plastic spoon for comparison, that’s how I test colours out, how many layers and such without messing up the model),
the silver base, optional an enamel gloss clear coat (if the paint you’re using isn’t enamel based), your clear coats (keep in mind, the more layers, the darker the colour gets, the less shine you get from the silver, again, test it out on a plastic spoon how dark you would like the colour to be) and then you can use a gloss clear to seal the paint job and do a possible panel lining.
Please let me know if you need some more information as the most awful thing is messing up a model, however, you can remove the paint without sanding. Just let them sit in rubbing alcohol for a day and use an old toothbrush to get the paint out the nooks and crannies.
Good luck and happy building!
Hmmmmm is it possible to put down the primer let it cure, then an alclad silver, and then spray a clear red over it. of course i’ll see how many times i want to spray the red, and then a sealer. For the black areas i was thinking of doing the primer, then the black with a sealer on top.
Are there any kinds of sealers that i should be using for a good finish?
If the red you’re going to spray is an enamel, it won’t be a problem. If it’s an “acrylic” by Tamiya or Mr. Hobby is strongly advise you spray down a clear enamel coat first and let it cure. Although it states Alclad II Lacquers on the bottle, most of their product aren’t lacquers at all, like the Klear Kote by them, it’s an enamel…..
You can do the black as intended, I don’t see any problems with that. Just make sure you get the right paint types, as some might not work with each other.
For me, I use an automotive clear gloss primer which is a lacquer based paint. In some occasions I use the Alclad II Klear Kote Gloss, let it cure for two days as it’s an enamel and spray the automotive clear on top. This method is used when I spray an acrylic, which cracks when I spray the lacquer on top of it. If first sprayed with an enamel it’ll hold up to the solvent based lacquers.
I also used the Alclad II Matt Kote in the past with great result. In my opinion, all the clears from Alclad are great, You just have to let them cure for a few days as the enamels, except for the Aqua Gloss, it’s like a Vallejo acrylic, which reminds me, I’ve used the Vallejo Matt clear, and it was a good clear coat, not as strong as the Alclad one, but if you want to do some weathering with the AK products, which are enamel based, you need a non enamel based clear, or else you’re going to mess up your paint job!
I used Tamiya X20 in the past, thinned down with Isoropanol Alcohol and it started frosting after the second coat.
The Mr Hobby GX clear is also really great, but it’s a lacquer based product.
Spend a lot of time searching for the best clear gloss that worked for me, but it all depends on your own taste and way of working.
Should you need any tips on what sort of paints that can be sprayed on each other or anything else related, please send me a PM. Was busy helping other fellow modelers out, that I forgot to scroll down a bit further in this section, hence it took me a few days getting back to you, for which I apologize.
Good luck and happy building!
sorry for not replying lots of things going on, can you explain this to me in a more basic level, or explain to me a basic way of doing this kind of paint job. A nice semi shiny/shiny red on nightingale. thank you for all your help.